proudly-pro-choice

Things that make no sense..

  • Prolifer: I AM PRO-ALL-LIVES!!!
  • Anyone else: Okay, so this person is going to die if they carry this pregnancy to term, they need an abortion.
  • Prolifer: ABSOLUTELY NOT! SAVE TEH BAAAAAAAAAAYBE!
  • Anyone else: But the pregnant person is going to die.. ?
  • Prolifer: Don't care. You aren't killing that baby.
  • Anyone else: So much for "pro-all-lives"..
  • Prolifer: I am pro-all-lives!
howprolifeofyou
howprolifeofyou:

this message disappeared out of our inbox for some reason but luckily I had a screenshot of it on my phone. - KaiThe term “baby” is not used in any scientific sense at all. After birth, a born human is called an infant. Some doctors may use “newborn”, but “infant” is the standard term. "Baby" has so many other uses it’s pretty much rendered meaningless in the abortion debate. This is a list of things that you can call "baby" that are not actual infants.
Your spouse or significant other
An older child
A woman or man you’re interested in
A pet
A car
Any other inanimate object you are attached to
Any inanimate object 
"Baby" is a term of endearment or attachment, meant to signify that one cares for the person or thing the term is being used for. When one uses the term "baby" to refer to a fetus, one creates a sense of attachment. If the pregnant person uses this term of their own volition, they’ve voluntarily accepted that attachment and by that action, they have chosen to accept the fetus, provide for its care, and raise it as their child once it is born. If, however, someone else uses this term without the pregnant person first volunteering, they are creating an attachment between the pregnant person and the fetus without regard for the pregnant person’s wishes. The objective of using the term “baby” in the context of the anti-choice movement is to create a subconscious attachment to the fetus in the pregnant person’s mind, whether they desire so or not. The pregnant person’s body is working against them at this point, producing higher levels of oxytocin, the hormone responsible for empathy, bonding, and emotional response. With the pregnant person now primed, so-called pro-life activists are now capable of using “baby” and other such emotionally-charged words to elicit stronger emotional responses. Effectively, this allows them to potentially emotionally hijack the pregnant person while they’re in a vulnerable state. Typically, this is done through guilt, shame, fear, deception, or simply through shocking them into a more receptive state.Whether or not this is the intention, it’s the method and the effect. Even if you were honestly invested in saving lives, as you put it, shame is one of the means by which the pro-life movement does its work.
Also, if you were truly interested in saving lives, your efforts would be dedicated to reducing the amount of reasons people get abortions. You would be supporting measures to reduce poverty and its effects, improve access to health care for women and people who can and have gotten pregnant,  and easing the burdens of parenthood on struggling families. You would be in favor of improving sex education and access to birth control in order to prevent more unwanted pregnancies. You would want to reform the adoption system so it’s no longer a dumping ground for unwanted children, and open the gates for the millions of LGBT+ people who are desperate to adopt children of their own, but are not allowed to by the laws of their home state. If you were truly pro-life as you say, you would be doing everything in your power to improve life for people in all stages of it, instead of just yelling at them and flinging dead mutilated fetus pictures in their faces.  Also, it’s not about women being shamed? …Kai, you get this one. I am fucking done. -Avery

howprolifeofyou:

this message disappeared out of our inbox for some reason but luckily I had a screenshot of it on my phone. - Kai

The term “baby” is not used in any scientific sense at all. After birth, a born human is called an infant. Some doctors may use “newborn”, but “infant” is the standard term.

"Baby" has so many other uses it’s pretty much rendered meaningless in the abortion debate. This is a list of things that you can call "baby" that are not actual infants.

  • Your spouse or significant other
  • An older child
  • A woman or man you’re interested in
  • A pet
  • A car
  • Any other inanimate object you are attached to
  • Any inanimate object 

"Baby" is a term of endearment or attachment, meant to signify that one cares for the person or thing the term is being used for. When one uses the term "baby" to refer to a fetus, one creates a sense of attachment. If the pregnant person uses this term of their own volition, they’ve voluntarily accepted that attachment and by that action, they have chosen to accept the fetus, provide for its care, and raise it as their child once it is born.

If, however, someone else uses this term without the pregnant person first volunteering, they are creating an attachment between the pregnant person and the fetus without regard for the pregnant person’s wishes. The objective of using the term “baby” in the context of the anti-choice movement is to create a subconscious attachment to the fetus in the pregnant person’s mind, whether they desire so or not. The pregnant person’s body is working against them at this point, producing higher levels of oxytocin, the hormone responsible for empathy, bonding, and emotional response. With the pregnant person now primed, so-called pro-life activists are now capable of using “baby” and other such emotionally-charged words to elicit stronger emotional responses. Effectively, this allows them to potentially emotionally hijack the pregnant person while they’re in a vulnerable state. Typically, this is done through guilt, shame, fear, deception, or simply through shocking them into a more receptive state.

Whether or not this is the intention, it’s the method and the effect. Even if you were honestly invested in saving lives, as you put it, shame is one of the means by which the pro-life movement does its work.

Also, if you were truly interested in saving lives, your efforts would be dedicated to reducing the amount of reasons people get abortions. You would be supporting measures to reduce poverty and its effects, improve access to health care for women and people who can and have gotten pregnant,  and easing the burdens of parenthood on struggling families. You would be in favor of improving sex education and access to birth control in order to prevent more unwanted pregnancies. You would want to reform the adoption system so it’s no longer a dumping ground for unwanted children, and open the gates for the millions of LGBT+ people who are desperate to adopt children of their own, but are not allowed to by the laws of their home state.

If you were truly pro-life as you say, you would be doing everything in your power to improve life for people in all stages of it, instead of just yelling at them and flinging dead mutilated fetus pictures in their faces. 

Also, it’s not about women being shamed?

…Kai, you get this one. I am fucking done.

-Avery

howprolifeofyou

officialdadpunchers asked:

One of my teachers compared abortion to the Holocaust, I've never been so utterly offended. And she said that this "180 movie" "blew her mind, and wow!! We're killing babies! REal live babies! It really is like the Holocaust." She's a science teacher, and she was telling me this, knowing I have Jewish heritage. I'm really angry at this, because it's not a real baby. It's a clump of cells, I'm not that educated on abortion, but at least I know the difference between a fetus and a baby.

oh-snap-pro-choice answered:

howprolifeofyou:

your-lies-ruin-lives:

culture-of-choice:

your-lies-ruin-lives:

If you don’t go to a religious school, report the teacher to the principal. If the principal doesn’t can her right away, go to the school board. 

It is unethical for a teacher to bring up their own beliefs and try to push them onto others. Especially anti-semitic crap like that. Do the thing. Go with g-d. 

Popping my nose into more stuff that isn’t my business.

Please, I urge you to listen to YLRL and take this as far as you can. Principals do NOT have eyes and ears everywhere, despite what they might say. He/she really needs to be aware of this kind of activity.

You don’t have to be aggressive about it. Literally all you have to say is that your teacher brought up a politically touchy subject and compared it to the Holocaust, an issue you take seriously as that is part of your heritage. 

If he/she is even a halfway decent principal, they WILL look into it. Please don’t let this slide - teachers that pull crap like this absolutely cannot be tolerated. That’s how we end up with people like Cultureshift. 

And to the person who anon-ed me and told me “But in this economy, people need their jobs.” Too fucking bad. Someone else might need that job that wouldn’t be uppity and anti-semitic in the process! 

Also, in this economy, the job market is intensely competitive. There’s a lot more chance of an employer finding someone better at your job than you are. If they figure out they can pay someone the same amount and get better performance, you’re out of there.

This teacher needs to be reported and fired promptly. Not only did she discuss her opinion on a abortion with students (I’m assuming this is a grade school and not college proffessor) which is not only frowned upon, but this is not legal for her to influence students on matters like this, and she conpared something to the Holocsust, which is just beyond. Beyond. She just insulted and degraded millions of people who suffered at the hands of Nazis, and she also degraded doctors, women and men who go through the abortion process and society. I hope she no longer gets to teach children and influence them and poison their minds.

About Me Again

To answer some of these messages, this is what I look like. I don’t wear make up. I go to school full time, my major is Microbiology and Virology. I’m pre med. I work two jobs. I own my house. I was kicked out of my family’s home on my 16th birthday when I came out as bisexual, specifically for my sexuality. I do not hold any grudge against my parents for it, they are Europeans immigrants that were born in the forties and were raised very religiously and have a set of values that I respect to be theirs. While I do not agree with them, I think everyone is entitled to their beliefs and is they do not cause hatred or harm to others, everyone deserves that respect. If I expect people to respect my beliefs, my words and my lifestyle and vqlues, I will respect that others have different sets of beliefs, lifestyle choices, and values than mine. One can not call oneself open minded if they do not respect the values of others that do not concur with their own. Again, as long as there is not outward hatred and harm to others done.
I am in my mid twenties now. I am single, I will never have kids. I am first generation “American” (a US citizen, not American really). I love to snowboard, read, play bass in an alternative rock group, sing, paint, photograph everything (sometimes myself), use a dark room to develop and edit photos, research things that interest me, write passionately about things, study filoviruses, I love to play with my cat and dog, spend too much time on the internet on my phone, I especially love to cook and feed my friends, I love being independent and strongly encourage others to do the same, I love trolling anti feminists, I love proving people wrong and strangely, I love when someone can argue my points with evidence and prove me wrong. I have lived in three countries and seven states. I speak four languages. I am truly sincere. I hate manipulative people. I get so passionate about things that I make little mistakes, but genuinely believe my intentions get laid out pretty clear.
I’m a feminist. I do not know enough about gender inequality and gender identification and am learning more about it every day. I am a breast cancer survivor. I learned how to ride a bike last year, and drive a standard car that I bought ten years ago.

English is not my first language, and after speaking so many languages, I feel I have no native tongue. I always tip fifty percent percent even if the service sucks, because I have bartended and waited tables for years on and off and can honestly say that is one of the most degrading, difficult and misunderstood jobs in the world and anyone who tips poorly is a sadist pig. I am dyslexic. I have acted in a couple minor roles on a television series.

I love running atound in the woods at night. I love to be cold. I hate the heat of American summers. I hate the Tea Party, with a passion. I do not support universal amnesty of illegal immigrants, even as a child of illegal immigrants
I vote for my senators, but not presidents, because Congress and the House truly control our law making procedures. I vote for my state senators as well. I support abortion. I donate 10% of my income, but not to church. I love spiders and snakes. I have horrible ptsd and anxiety, but use both to my advantage. I have crooked front teeth and I think crooked teeth are sexyThe last surgery I had on my knee took place under local anesthetic so I could watch. I don’t own a television, and never have. I really don’t like misogyny. But I have taken advantage of it. I love reading other peoples writing and stories, especially true to life ones. I used to model, but hated it. I have long hair. I have always have been very slim with large breasts, and people rutinely accuse me of being anorexic and/or bulemic, though I eat well and excersize. I have a huge resentment towards people who body shame others or accuse them of eating disorders, you might say I “hate” them.

So that is about me.